"Joseph Moura: No, I don't because I think it's a pretty ridiculous statement to be making.Hannah Storm: asks a question about a sighting 2 days after the disappearance, when Maddie was reported to have been seen with 3 people in a van.JM: The Portuguese police had 160 police officers working on this case. If this was a set of facts consistent with the real case, they would've identified this person by now.HS: Question about whether the parents brought about the child's death or if someone abducted her.JM: Having worked the case in order to identify a timeline, what is the real important part of this case is that in my mind was there enough opportunity for these people to have committed a crime and then dispose of the body. We find that the timeline doesn't fit. They couldn't possibly have been involved. Whether accidental or not, they would've had to dispose of the body and there just wasn't enough time.HS: Question about how many nights in a row the parents left the children alone.JM: They had already been out five nights in a row and they had set a pattern and every night was 8.30 sharp they had reservations at the restaurant and they all went there to dine and they had between six and seven bottles of wine when they had their dinner. So, when you start looking at that time element, looking at the waiters who served them and at the bartenders who brought them bottles of wine, then that's how you get that time frame that we're talking about.HS: Asks if Kate and Gerry left the children alone every night.JM: They did. They weren't the only ones. Their friends also did the same.HS: Asks about baby-sitters.JM: It's a good question because they do provide a baby-sitting service at the compound.HS: Asks if the holiday apartment was visible from the restaurant. JM had visited the Tapas restaurant and sat at the table the McCanns and friends had occupied on the night of May 3rd 2007.JM: You cannot see the actual apartment that they were staying at from the table where they sat down.HS: Asks if the McCanns therefore wouldn't have seen anyone coming or going.JM: They had no actual view whatsoever.HS: Mentions that Kate McCann has refused to take a lie detector test.JM: I think that a lie detector test is inconclusive. I wouldn't take one and I would never advise a client of mine to take one. So, that doesn't necessarily bother me.HS: Asks about inconsistent stories and specifically about Jane Tanner's statement about having seen a man carrying a child.JM: Jane Tanner gives a very inconsistent story. It's not a truthful story. I'm not quite sure why she did it. I mean it would be impossible for all these people to be getting up and going to check on the children, going off for walks, when they have only an hour and twenty minutes time frame. They have dinner, they had seven bottles of wine and they had their coffees. There's just not enough time to do all these things. She never left that table that night.HS: In a word, do you think this girl's alive?JM: I do not."
IMO the checks boiled down to listening only when returning to the apartments to go to the loo and there is no evidence of abduction...Algarveisfedup
IMO Gerry is the one who has been seen by a witness (Jeremy W.)going to check on the children,but he went into that appartment after meeting Jeremy,not finding Maddie inside and screaming their name(what Carpenters wife heard)and afterwards finding the girl dead,cleaning up,carrying her direction to the beach(what Smith family saw).All happenned between 21:20-22:00Claudia
Thanks Anna as always..Will we ever know the truth? I am having a day of despair.How can anyone keep such a secret? a little girl is dead.Hi Claudia.
Ironside, I think the reason the McCanns tend to stick to the well-rehearsed scripts and mantras is fear of what might just spill accidentally from their lips. With so many people watching and waiting and aware of their previous gaffs, I think they're on a knife edge now with the court case coming up on Tuesday.
Claudia, to me your theory holds water. The staff at the Tapas bar probably wouldn't have noticed which of the males in the Tapas Crew were absent and for how long.
Hola IRON!Well,as I was young I did work in a resort,very similar to the ocean,in a bar like tapas and next season in the creche,all I can say I was busy myself serving,doing cocktails and talking to the turists and co-workers and haven´t noticed which of the guests were absent either for how long.There´s some guests like the MCC´s and friends they booked table every night,so I could not tell for sure who of them was absent on what nightClaudia
This doesnt explain the dogs or the lack of evidence of an intruder GMKOMD
I have only just read the book now and then started looking on the internet and making up my own timeline.Question: What ever happened to Russell's story about changing bedding for his vomiting child, did he use bedding from his apartment to make Maddies bed look ok and why is his partner the one who "saw" the abductor?He was away 45 minutes to "check" on his child and sent Matt tocall Jane Tanner, who ate, left and was in her apartment after Russell rejoined the table. She was still in the apartment when Mrs McCann found her daughter gone.Also, there must have been a hiccupbetween the couples because of Mrs McCann's run with Matt, which is why his wife, Rachael did not join supper on the 2nd. The next day all the couples ignored the McCanns after an unpleasant scene at the table after too many liquers- they even had their supper separately with their children without the McCann family. This remains a riddle, but honestly too many loose ends and I still wonder why Jane Tanner was always the one who spotted everything, wherever the McCanns were, she saw them, whether it was Kate running or Kate and Gerry at the playpark with the children...boy she was there and saw it all. I wonder if she had a good holiday being such a busy body?Last but not least, it is also puzzling why Dianne remained at the Tapas after everyone rushed off to help? Her daughter was Kate's best friend? Did she know something?I believe that 2 things could have happened. More later after more investigation.
I agree... Tanner and Russell know more than they are letting on. I wonder if Smith actually saw Russell with a girl, and not Gerry. Ng
I have only just stumbled on a face book page,'justice for Madeleine '.. Up until now I always believed that were innocent, even though I didn't like them . I thought it strange that i didn't like them ,given what they went through .but now, I'm obsessed with funding out the truth, and am thinking outside of my usual passive zone.
Thank you, Anonymous. It's interesting what we pick up on, possibly at a subconscious level. When I saw the video of the first press interview the McCanns gave, I had the feeling that something wasn't right. I usually feel really choked up when someone is talking on a subject like a missing child, but when Kate McCann was speaking, there was nothing. When I watched the interview again, it seemed to me that Kate McCann screwed up her face in a parody of emotion, but for me, there was nothing there. That's when I went looking and found an online forum, where there were others who were having doubts.
AnnaEsse - I agree with you. I was really shocked and taken aback when I first saw the interview with Kate McCann, there was nothing there as you say. I was on holiday in the South of Spain with my own daughter (5 months younger than Madeleine) and I remember being absolutely shocked that a mother would react in this way. I remember that I was stopped by a camera crew interviewing people at random over the abduction and I refused to be interviewed as I was incredibly angry that three young children had been left alone in the first place and I obviously did not want my own daughter on camera. I thought a 'neutral' position would be better for finding poor Madeleine.
Thank you, Anonymous. I agree with everything you have said. Kate and Gerry were interviewed for Vanity Fair magazine* in January 2008 and when Gerry was asked about Madeleine's eye defect, using it in their campaign in spite of advice from the police not to, he said that he realised the kidnapper could have harmed Madeleine because of it, but it was "a good marketing ploy." Marketing his daughter?*Google "Unanswered Prayers Vanity Fair." for the interview.
I've never believed Jane Tanners statement about the man carrying a child. The reason why is because the child was the wrong way round, unless he was walking backwards, or he turned her around, or he dragged the bed out and picked her up from the other side.
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IMO the checks boiled down to listening only when returning to the apartments to go to the loo and there is no evidence of abduction...
Algarveisfedup
IMO Gerry is the one who has been seen by a witness (Jeremy W.)going to check on the children,but he went into that appartment after meeting Jeremy,not finding Maddie inside and screaming their name(what Carpenters wife heard)and afterwards finding the girl dead,cleaning up,carrying her direction to the beach(what Smith family saw).All happenned between 21:20-22:00
Claudia
Thanks Anna as always..Will we ever know the truth? I am having a day of despair.How can anyone keep such a secret? a little girl is dead.
Hi Claudia.
Ironside, I think the reason the McCanns tend to stick to the well-rehearsed scripts and mantras is fear of what might just spill accidentally from their lips. With so many people watching and waiting and aware of their previous gaffs, I think they're on a knife edge now with the court case coming up on Tuesday.
Claudia, to me your theory holds water. The staff at the Tapas bar probably wouldn't have noticed which of the males in the Tapas Crew were absent and for how long.
Hola IRON!
Well,as I was young I did work in a resort,very similar to the ocean,in a bar like tapas and next season in the creche,all I can say I was busy myself serving,doing cocktails and talking to the turists and co-workers and haven´t noticed which of the guests were absent either for how long.There´s some guests like the MCC´s and friends they booked table every night,so I could not tell for sure who of them was absent on what night
Claudia
This doesnt explain the dogs or the lack of evidence of an intruder
GMKOMD
I have only just read the book now and then started looking on the internet and making up my own timeline.Question: What ever happened to Russell's story about changing bedding for his vomiting child, did he use bedding from his apartment to make Maddies bed look ok and why is his partner the one who "saw" the abductor?He was away 45 minutes to "check" on his child and sent Matt to
call Jane Tanner, who ate, left and was in her apartment after Russell rejoined the table. She was still in the apartment when Mrs McCann found her daughter gone.
Also, there must have been a hiccup
between the couples because of Mrs McCann's run with Matt, which is why his wife, Rachael did not join supper on the 2nd. The next day all the couples ignored the McCanns after an unpleasant scene at the table after too many liquers- they even had their supper separately with their children without the McCann family. This remains a riddle, but honestly too many loose ends and I still wonder why Jane Tanner was always the one who spotted everything, wherever the McCanns were, she saw them, whether it was Kate running or Kate and Gerry at the playpark with the children...boy she was there and saw it all. I wonder if she had a good holiday being such a busy body?
Last but not least, it is also puzzling why Dianne remained at the Tapas after everyone rushed off to help? Her daughter was Kate's best friend? Did she know something?
I believe that 2 things could have happened. More later after more investigation.
I agree... Tanner and Russell know more than they are letting on. I wonder if Smith actually saw Russell with a girl, and not Gerry.
Ng
I have only just stumbled on a face book page,'justice for Madeleine '.. Up until now I always believed that were innocent, even though I didn't like them . I thought it strange that i didn't like them ,given what they went through .but now, I'm obsessed with funding out the truth, and am thinking outside of my usual passive zone.
Thank you, Anonymous. It's interesting what we pick up on, possibly at a subconscious level. When I saw the video of the first press interview the McCanns gave, I had the feeling that something wasn't right. I usually feel really choked up when someone is talking on a subject like a missing child, but when Kate McCann was speaking, there was nothing. When I watched the interview again, it seemed to me that Kate McCann screwed up her face in a parody of emotion, but for me, there was nothing there. That's when I went looking and found an online forum, where there were others who were having doubts.
AnnaEsse - I agree with you. I was really shocked and taken aback when I first saw the interview with Kate McCann, there was nothing there as you say. I was on holiday in the South of Spain with my own daughter (5 months younger than Madeleine) and I remember being absolutely shocked that a mother would react in this way. I remember that I was stopped by a camera crew interviewing people at random over the abduction and I refused to be interviewed as I was incredibly angry that three young children had been left alone in the first place and I obviously did not want my own daughter on camera. I thought a 'neutral' position would be better for finding poor Madeleine.
Thank you, Anonymous. I agree with everything you have said. Kate and Gerry were interviewed for Vanity Fair magazine* in January 2008 and when Gerry was asked about Madeleine's eye defect, using it in their campaign in spite of advice from the police not to, he said that he realised the kidnapper could have harmed Madeleine because of it, but it was "a good marketing ploy." Marketing his daughter?
*Google "Unanswered Prayers Vanity Fair." for the interview.
I've never believed Jane Tanners statement about the man carrying a child. The reason why is because the child was the wrong way round, unless he was walking backwards, or he turned her around, or he dragged the bed out and picked her up from the other side.
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