Thursday, 17 December 2009

Madeleine McCann: Gerry's blue tennis bag

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Was there a blue tennis bag or wasn't there a blue tennis bag and did said tennis bag disappear? The saga of the bag has been around for as long as there have been forums discussing the Maddie case and at some point any official mention of it seemed to have disappeared, like Maddie herself, without a trace and no evidence it had ever been there
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This video is from December 23rd 2007. Martin Brunt, of Sky News, is seen sitting in the Tapas Bar, at the table that was occupied by the McCanns and their friends on the night Madeleine disappeared. Between the table and the outside world, there is a slightly tinted tarpaulin, through which the swimming pool can be seen with the apartment block in which apartment 5A is located in the top, right background. Brunt describes what lies between the Tapas Bar and the apartment block and states that it would have been impossible to have seen anyone entering or leaving the McCanns' rented apartment.


Brunt then follows the route which would have been taken by the McCanns and friends from the Tapas Bar to the apartment, to check on the children. He makes the trip in 80 paces, much further than, as Gerry McCann originally stated, "like dining in your own back garden."

It's the tennis bag that's of particular interest here. Martin Brunt explains that the missing bag is one of two important lines of enquiry for the police.

That was December 23rd 2007. On December 24th 2007, in a Daily Telegraph report, the McCann family was quoted as saying that the tennis bag was not the focus of the police investigation. Clarence Mitchell put in a strange twopenn'rth
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"But Clarence Mitchell, the spokesman for Madeleine's parents, dismissed the report, insisting that Gerry had never owned such a bag."

"As far as Kate and Gerry are concerned, there is no missing tennis bag," he said.

"They came back from holiday with everything except of course, tragically, Madeleine."

So, Gerry had never owned such a bag and Kate and Gerry say there is no missing tennis bag. So, did he ask Kate and Gerry, "Is a blue tennis bag of yours missing?" And they said no? The statement appears to be in two very distant parts, which don't necessarily add up to the same thing. There isn't a bag missing because they've still got it and they came back from holiday with the same blue bag that they went with? There isn't a bag missing because they know where it is?

The McCanns are not quoted directly as saying they never had a blue tennis bag. The McCann family was quoted as saying that the bag was not the focus of police investigation and that, apart from Madeleine, nothing was left behind when they returned home.

22 comments:

Anonymous said...

I haven't got the pictures to hand but they will either be at the Maddiefiles.com or McCannfiles

the first PJ photos of the appt 5A, in the wardrobe on a high shelf, there is a blue bag...

the second series of photos of 5A, it has been removed

AnnaEsse said...

Right! Thank you. I shall go and have a look for those.

Himself said...

You can't mean the one that wasn't big enough to hide... errr keep a tennis racquet in?

Let me see if I can track down which one of the statements that little slip came from.

By the way lass, it's "twopenn'rth not tuppence worth, twopenn'rth.

I can se' thar weren't brung propper, and thar a teacher an'all.

Himself said...

RECORD OF TAPE RECORDED INTERVIEW Police Exhibit No IM25A
Person Interviewed: David PAYNE Number of Pages 35
Place of Interview: Force Headquarters, Enderby Signature of Interviewing
Date of Interview: 11.04.08 Officer producing exhibit
Time Commenced: 1530 hours
Time Concluded: 1640 hours Duration of Interview: 70 minutes
Interviewing Officer(s) DC 1485 MESSIAH Tape Reference nos:


1485 "What about a kit bag? Would they have a kit bag with them?”
Reply "Err he certainly didn’t have a great big tennis bag or a, you know, err I mean I used to be a squash, a semi-professional squash player and you know they certainly didn’t have anything that I would call a kit bag from days when I played…”
1485 "Yeah.”
Reply "You know, a lot of sport, err if they had a rucksack with some water in that would be, you know, about as big as it got, you know a small rucksack. But it certainly wasn’t a big tennis, you know, things that you could put a tennis racquet in.”
1485 "Yeah.”
Reply "There was nothing of that size that you could hide a, a tennis racquet in or anything like that, it would have been just purely, if they had anything…”
1485 "Yeah.”
Reply "It would have been something that had their water in.”
1485 "So as opposed to a bag it’d be something like a rucksack, if at all?”
Reply "If, if at all, yeah.”
1485 "Yeah.”

http://themaddiecasefiles.com/post456.html#p456

AnnaEsse said...

Ah wiz surely brung up aw rang, richt nuff. "Twopenn'rth it's goat tae be.

Please do track that statement if you've got the time and I'm also looking for the original PJ photos of apartment 5A, showing a bag in a cupboard/wardrobe if you know where to find those. Ta!

AnnaEsse said...

Woops! Found the other message! Google has a habit of lumping lots of messages together.

Anonymous said...

I'll try & find the photos & post the link...

someone (i think it was on maddiecasefiles) juxtaposed the 2 photos together

AnnaEsse said...

Thanks. Much appreciated.

Anonymous said...

sorry Anna

I've had a quick skim through the PJ files @themaddiecasefiles to no avail

the 2 photos are definitely there somewhere - I think maybe someone posted them on the main thread - I'm sure if you ask Joana she'll be able to find them... it's not a case of whoosh clunk - just too much to trawl through... wish I'd copied them - they were only posted a couple of months ago

AnnaEsse said...

Thank you very much for looking. Best regards, Anna

Ironside said...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/maddie/article616714.ece

This is suppose to be the size of the bag in question...For PJ to say that Mccann had that bag the same afternoon Madeleine went missing... there must be some CCTV footage of Mccann with the bag.
I do remember seeing photos of the wardrobe with the bag and also without the bag...Mccann was allowed back in that apartment the following day..

AnnaEsse said...

Thanks IRONSIDE. I think I may have found the first PJ photos of the wardrobe in 5A showing a bag like that on a shelf.

Ironside said...

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/PJ/Processopdf10page65-KateArguidointe.jpg


Bag in wardrobe..it looks a fair size.


Many thanks to Pamalam.

Ironside said...

OK Anna..have you found the photo with the bag now missing...Mccann must have taken it the following day .

Anonymous said...

hi Anna, Gerry first said:the blue sports bag has been stolen(disappeared),later they said they never had one!
Thats what they stated in portuguese.
Claudia

AnnaEsse said...

Thanks Ironside. I didn't notice you'd gone lower case! Anyway, that's the one I had found on the McCann Files.

Best regards,

Anna

AnnaEsse said...

Claudia,

Thanks. I do remember reading an article from the early days, translated from a Portuguese journal, about there having been 'something,' missing from the apartment and then reading that the 'something,' had been a blue sports bag.

Ironside said...

Hi Claudia 'Feliz Fiestas' I also remember that the bag was reported stolen..Unless we are all suffering from mass hypnosis..I would say that a bag did exist.


Claudia is Alsabella still around?

Ironside said...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2007/08/14/mccann-pals-lash-sea-claim-115875-19622371/

I know it is only the gutter press..but the thought has been there for sometime. Take away 'bin bag' and place it with bag laden with stones. Kate at the beach where she feels'solace'.
However, seeing as I do not believe a word that comes out of that womans mouth,,she could well have been planting another red herring over the weekend. Did they even go to the beach? Fisherman are up very early and they were not seen...plus it would have been dark. What were they doing walking around with torches?

AnnaEsse said...

Ironside, being of a rather cynical nature, at least as far as the McCanns are concerned, I don't believe they went to the church in the early morning or tramped along a rocky beach before sunrise. Neither Martin Brunt nor the fishermen who were on the beach before sunrise saw them.

I think they were still in their beds at whatever place they were lodging and made up this little fairy tale to make themselves look like they'd gone on some kind of private pilgrimage away from the media spotlight because they had only gone to Praia da Luz in the first place as a PR exercise.

Anonymous said...

muchas gracias ironside,same to you! but,sorry I do not know alsabella,I´m from Germany!
Claudia

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_lWXrpwC28yU/R2-wp4RM3ZI/AAAAAAAAA38/Rjtg2y_SVEw/s1600-h/gogolfinenjoyyourselfgerry.jpg

Ironside said...

Hi Claudia, I am sorry I thought you were Claudia from Portugal..Alsabella ,Claudia and I used to post together on the old DX forum.